Islamic Terrorism in India

Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims

Is banning Islam the way to go?

Posted by jagoindia on February 28, 2009


To ban Islam is the most natural way to go
(Reader comment on article: Trouble in Londonistan
in response to reader comment: Root cause of Muslims’ problems
Submitted by Alain Jean-Mairet (Switzerland), Jul 19, 2006 at 06:17)

As soon as you clearly see what Islamic laws do mean – wars against all people who refuse to bow to Islam, religious hatred and segregation, mutilations and collective murder in public places, systematic slavery – you understand that the thing must be banned. This simple fact is confirmed even by a fully politically correct institution like the European Court of Human Rights (this judgment is also presented and explained, in French, on precaution.ch).

The problem is just political.

For most people, and for many Muslims, too, Islam is a normal religion, that is, a good thing, a guide in life, a way to live according to the will of a good and merciful god. And that is not supposed to be questioned. And if it is questioned nevertheless, most people think that you can interpret the sacred texts at will, and find there the best just as well as the worst.

But the latter isn’t true. The best effort ever to interpret Islam’s sacred texts was that of jurists, elaborating the Islamic laws (Sharia). They formed several colleges (madhahib) where all members had to know the Koran and most hadiths by heart for discussing them. They debated for a long time, of all possible matters treated in the Islamic scriptures.

They did disagree on many details. But they fully agreed on jihad being a war of conquest, waged against all infidels until Islam reigns supreme. They did agree too on dhimma, being an inferior, humiliating statute for “people of the book”, as they wanted to label believers of other monotheist faiths. They did agree on most hudud, punishments for violations of the claims of God (huquq Allah) which is why adultery still can be punished by stoning (collective murder with the help of the public) in Islam. They did agree on slavery being a totally normal statute for servants, concubines, workers of all kinds.

One really can doubt whether it is possible to conclude anything else than what those men agreed upon, in separate colleges, soaked in different basic cultures, without consultation nor hardly any political affinities beyond the belonging to Islam.

But fact is, those laws didn’t, don’t and won’t do. They have to be changed or abandoned. So the question is just how?

Obviously, only Muslims can gather and decide that their sacred laws have changed. They have to be encouraged to do so. That means encouraging the learning and questioning of those laws and their basis, and debating some ways to reform them. Within Islam, it is a religious procedure, as those laws are supposed to be divine. I guess it must be done in Mecca or so. But without Islam, the most natural form of encouraging that process is to forbid Islam as long as its laws will stay “incompatible with the democratic regime” (point 25 of the ECHR judgement).

The mere effort, successful or not, towards the banning of Islam based on those reflections will foster the reconsidering of Islamic laws, will awake Westerners to the danger of Islam at large and will strengthen the position of Muslims reformers, within and without Islam.

That’s why, in a nutshell, banning Islam is the way to go. Until it will be reformed.

5 Responses to “Is banning Islam the way to go?”

  1. dajjal said

    Islam is evil and can not be rendered anodyne. Like methyl alcohol, it will always be poison. The Koran reveals: it is Allah’s word which does not change and no man can change it. It also reveals: Islam is perfected. Perfection can only be defiled, not improved. For the details, see: Can Islam Be Reformed?

    For the most egregious Sharia, which declares war on us, see Book O, Chapter 9 of Reliance of the Traveler. You can find it quoted and linked in several of my blog posts at Freedom Ain’t Free or Go Burn With Muhammad.

    I urge and exhort everyone to make extensive and intensive use of quotes from Reliance of the Traveler as well as the Koran and hadith. If you need a source, look for EgregiousAyat.chm in the New Extended Library at Crusader’s Armory.

  2. Ban Islam for past and present War Crimes

    Muhammed: The Con Man and False Prophet

    As we are against terrorism in the world for the ultimate survival of our society, I’m offering viewpoints to win the battle against Islam’s goal of world domination, which is stated in their writings.

    Muhammed and his sayings, found in the Koran, Hadiths, Sunnahs and Surahs, are the root of Muslim terrorism.

    With truth and reality, we must discredit the founder of Islam, his sayings and the belief system that spawns this terrorism.

    Let the world know that Muhammed, while in Medina, organized raids on camel trains hauling trade goods, and received twenty percent (20%) of the ill gotten loot. The spiritual mechanics of functioning as a Prophet does not mix with being a thief and killing for wealth.

    Let the world know that Muhammed betrothed a six year old (6) child , in her ninth year (9) consummated their marriage sexually. He was in his fifties (50’s) at the time. The inner development of a Prophet does not function with paedophilia. Muhammed was a Paedophile. He claimed that Aisha was his only wife that caused him to experience revelations while under the blanket with her. Muhammeds counsel to others and actions, legitimized paedophilia through Islams ideology. What was the source of Muhammeds revelations as a Paedophile? All this is stated in th Hadiths and Surahs.

    On returning to Medina after taking Mecca, he attacked one of the Jewish tribes, the Qurraysa. After 28 days of siege, the Jews capitulated. Muhammed immediately ignored the terms agreed upon as part of their surrender. He ordered and watched as all males from puberty on were beheaded in a trench. Their families were made to watch this slaughter of the male children and men. Some of the women became hysterical while watching the beheading of their husbands and sons and were also beheaded. During the slaughter, Muhammed spotted a beautiful Jewish girl and selected her for his sex slave. Her name was Rayhannah. She had to watch while her mother and sister were raped. Her sister was traded as a slave for arms which is stated in both the Hadiths and the Surahs. There were three tribal groups of Jewish origin and belief in Medina at that time. Those that weren’t killed or sold into slavery were forced out into the desert to die.
    These atrocities are the actions of a demonic fiend not a Prophet.

    Muhammed also encouraged and rewarded many assassinations in his lifetime. Murder is not an activity of a Prophet.

    The fantasy paradise that Muhammed developed to entice the itinerant, uneducated Arabs to Islam is a personal bordello. This paradise in the hereafter shows a sexual fixation and addiction in the spirit of Muhammed. This is not the development of a spiritual Prophet. This demonic personality is no doubt the most successful con man ever. Muhammed has been more successful than Hitler and the Nazi movement in longevity, size of his organization and hatred of the Jews.

    Compare Muhammed to all former Prophets and founders of great religious movements, East and West, and it easily shows us how debased he was. His organization was developed by tacking spiritual words to robbery, killing, conversions by the sword and terrorism with Fatwas which are all fiendish acts. This activity by his followers is presently seen on television clips with kidnapped, innocent people being beheaded in praise of Allah.

    Last but not least, Allah was one of over two hundred and fifty (250) idols in the Ka’aba. After taking Mecca, Muhammed destroyed all other tribal idols except for the Quraysh tribe’s idol and pronounced Allah the one and only God.

    I believe that, in warfare against terrorism, we must attack the heart and not just the tentacles of Islam with truth. We must not let this perversion of religion spawn numberless adherents to Muhammed’s words to expand their terrorism. We must confront terrorism head on.

    When combating Evil remember: Appeasement is like feeding a steak to a tiger in the hope that it will eventually become a vegetarian.

    International Ban Islam petition:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/MYSTIC/petition.html

    Canada’s for debate in the House of Commons:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/GUARDIAN/

    Guardians of Democracy site:

    http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/

    Unfortunately, Muslims in debate or negotiations are forced to LIE to preserve Islam’s integrity. This noble Islamic activity is called “TAKIYA”.

  3. […] oficials. It has also been posted widely on the web. You can read it in a blog comment here:  https://islamicterrorism.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/is-banning-islam-the-way-to-go/ That text contains active hyerlinks to Lorenzo’s petitions and web […]

  4. akhter said

    There is not a single verse which is against humanaty!!

    Question: Aren’t there some verses of the Qur’an that condone “killing the infidel”?

    Answer: The Qur’an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle — i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur’an are in this context.

    There are some specific verses that are very often “snipped” out of context, either by those trying to malign the faith, or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.

    For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: “slay them wherever you catch them” (Qur’an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are “they” that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:

    “Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevails justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression” (2:190-193).

    It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back — but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.

    Another similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 — which in its snipped, out of context version could read: “fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war).” Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.

    This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them… (as quoted above).

    Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, “but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them… for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that “as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous.”

    Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur’an. Nowhere in the Qur’an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in ‘payback’ for another people’s alleged crimes.

    The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur’an 60:7-8):

    “It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

    God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just.”

    More Islam Q&A

  5. jagoindia said

    Show that you respect Hindus, Hinduism and Hindu Gods and you will get respect in return! So far your heart is full of hatred, ill will, intolerance, and more hatred.

    Let me see how much of “Most Merciful Oft Forgiving” your allah is towards Hindus, Christians and others.

    Our God loves all his creation. We do not have permanent hell and neither does our God tell us to kill and torture non believers. All are his very own creation. How can a god condemn his own creation. We all go back to him in the long run.

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